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November 16, 2016
Video of 11-16-16 Press Briefing is here: http://video.state.gov/en/video/5213130994001
John Kirby
Spokesperson
Daily Press Briefing
Daily Press Briefing
Washington, DC
November 16, 2016
ANOTHER instance of accusations that Russia bombed not two hospitals, but this time five. Sorry, can't say where the hospitals are, even in what city, but "trust us"WE KNOW." How?? Because "reliable sources tell us.
Watch, listen, and decide for yourself. I have put time markers on the relevant sections.
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Watch, listen, and decide for yourself. I have put time markers on the relevant sections.
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TRANSCRIPT:
MR KIRBY: Afternoon.
[break]
MR KIRBY: Sure.
[ 17:56
]QUESTION: Okay. First of all, can you clarify what is going on in terms of
where the Russians are bombing? I mean, some say in Aleppo, but there is no
evidence that there is any bombardment of eastern Aleppo by the Russians. There
is bombardments of Idlib and Homs and so on, and the countryside of Homs. So
first of all, if you have information on where they are bombing and what is
going on there.
[18:18] MR KIRBY: Well, I don’t have – as you know, Said, I don’t have specific
tactical information about Russian military operations in terms of grid points
and locations on a map. We – I would say, though, that we have seen additional
airstrikes now in Syria by Russia and by the regime, to include what has been
reported to be – and we have no reason to doubt this because of the sourcing
that we’re getting – that five hospitals and at least one mobile clinic in
Syria were struck by --
[ 18:13]
QUESTION: Can say which city the hospitals were in?
MR KIRBY: What’s that?
[ 19:14 ]
QUESTION: Which city were the hospitals in?
MR KIRBY: I don’t have the exact location. But – so five hospitals and one
mobile clinic. And by all counts, it looks like they were deliberately
targeted, all in the span of just the last day or so. It’s also worth noting
that despite Russian claims that it halted airstrikes in the past month or so
--
[ 19:40
]QUESTION: Twenty-eight days.
MR KIRBY: -- yeah – they’ve allowed no food or humanitarian assistance into
east Aleppo. And the regime and Russia have now let Aleppo’s residents starve,
all while seeking praise from the international community for halting
indiscriminate strikes for three weeks. Again, five hospitals and at least one
– maybe more – mobile clinic. That doesn’t sound to me like a halt in
indiscriminate attacks.
QUESTION: Can you give us a specific --
{ where is this said? By whom? ]
[ 20:12 ] QUESTION: Now the Russians are – excuse me, just let me --
QUESTION: Sorry.
[20:16 ] QUESTION: -- follow up with a couple of things. The Russian defense
ministry claims that it is actually the rebels who are – or the terror groups
who are holding back the aid, they are disallowing the public from reaching
that humanitarian aid. And in fact, they’re saying that there was some sort of
demonstration by the public and that was crushed brutally by the different
militant groups and so on. And so I want – how do you sort out after all this
kind of conflicting information and so on – how do you get your information on
this case?
[20:51 ] MR
KIRBY: No, look, it’s a very fluid situation and our knowledge is
imperfect. That’s why we say I have seen – we’ve seen reports of these things.
And I don’t have specifics for you. I don’t have specific locations --
QUESTION: But don’t you think it’s --
[21:09 ] MR
KIRBY: Hang on a second, I’m answering Said.
QUESTION: Don’t you think it is important --
MR KIRBY: We don’t
have that. I’m saying we’ve seen these reports.
QUESTION: Right.
[ 21:16 ] MR
KIRBY: And they fly in the face of everything Russia says it’s doing in
Syria, and specifically in Aleppo. So I don’t have – I don’t have (inaudible)
on this and it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to get into that anyway.
QUESTION: But don’t you think it is important --
QUESTION: So you would refute --
MR KIRBY: But, but --
[ 21:36] QUESTION: -- the claim by the Russians that they have stopped or they had
a moratorium on striking Aleppo, eastern Aleppo, for the past 28 days? In fact,
all the while were – the militant groups were striking western Aleppo.
[21:49] MR KIRBY: So we’ve
seen – well, you’ve also seen reports that – about opposition groups that were
limiting or trying to be an obstacle to humanitarian aid and assistance. And
we’ve made it clear to the opposition groups that we communicate with and
certainly to nations who have influence over other opposition groups that these
reports are troubling and concerning and obviously to the degree they’re true,
that that obstruction should not occur. That said, it’s without question that it
is the regime and its Russian backers that have had the – by far, the most
responsibility for stopping the violence, for stopping the strikes, and for
allowing the aid to get in, which they haven’t done. I mean, I don’t know how
many times now I’ve been to this podium talking about the fact that no
humanitarian aid is getting into Aleppo and that hasn’t changed.
QUESTION: Don’t you think it is --
MR KIRBY: It hasn’t
changed one bit.
[23:01] QUESTION
[Gayane Chichakyan] : Sorry, don’t you think it is
important to give a specific list of hospitals that you’re accusing Russia of
hitting? Those are grave accusations.
[23:08}MR KIRBY: I’m not
making those accusations. I’m telling you we’ve seen reports from credible aid
organizations that five hospitals and a clinic --
QUESTION: Which hospital --
MR KIRBY: At least
one clinic --
[23:15] QUESTION
[GC] : In what cities at least?
[23:18} MR KIRBY: You can go
look at the information that many of the Syrian relief agencies are putting out
there publicly. We’re getting our information from them too. These reports --
QUESTION: But you are citing those reports without giving any specifics.
MR KIRBY: Because we
believe these agencies are credible and because we have other sources of
information that back up what we’re seeing from some of these reports. And you
know what? Why don’t ask --
QUESTION: If you – exactly.
MR KIRBY: Here’s a
good question.
QUESTION: That’s what I --
MR KIRBY: Why don’t
you ask your defense ministry --
QUESTION: That’s what I was --
MR KIRBY: -- what
they’re doing and see if you can get --
QUESTION: If you give a specific list --
MR KIRBY: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
QUESTION: If you give a specific list of hospitals --
MR KIRBY: No, no, no.
QUESTION: My colleagues who are listening --
MR KIRBY: I’m supposed
to --
QUESTION: -- hopefully would be able to go and ask Russian officials about
a specific list of hospitals that you’re accusing Russia of --
MR KIRBY: You work
for Russia Today, right? Isn’t that your agency?
QUESTION: That is correct. Yes.
MR KIRBY: And so why
shouldn’t you ask your government the same kinds of questions that you’re
standing here asking me?
QUESTION: When you level --
MR KIRBY: Ask them
about their military activities. Get them to tell you what they’re – or to deny
what they’re doing.
QUESTION: When I ask for specifics, it seems your response is why are you
here? Well, you are leveling that accusation.
MR KIRBY: No, ma’am.
QUESTION: And if you give specifics --
MR KIRBY: No, ma’am.
QUESTION: -- my colleagues would be able to ask --
MR KIRBY: No, ma’am.
QUESTION: -- Russian officials.
MR KIRBY: Once again,
you’re just wrong. I’m not leveling those accusations. Relief agencies that we
find credible are leveling those accusations.
QUESTION: But you repeat them.
MR KIRBY: So why
don’t you question them about their information and where they’re getting it?
And why don’t you question your own defense ministry?
QUESTION: Which organizations then? Which ones? Where should I look?
MR KIRBY: We’ll get
you – we will get you a list of them after the briefing. I don’t have it right
here in front of me, but I’m happy to provide to you some of the relief
agencies that are telling us what they’re seeing on the ground.
QUESTION: And specifically on blocking aid within the 28 days that Russia
and Syria had stopped the airstrikes in eastern Aleppo, and I understand they
resumed by the – they were resumed by the Syrian military yesterday. Do you –
can you give any specific information on when Russia or the Syrian Government
blocked the UN from delivering aid? Just any specific information.
MR KIRBY: There
hasn’t been any aid delivered in the last month.
QUESTION: And you believe it was blocked exclusively by Russia and the
Syrian Government.
MR KIRBY: There’s no
question in our mind that the obstruction is coming from the regime and from
Russia. No question at all.
Ma’am.
QUESTION: I just have --
QUESTION: John, can I just --
QUESTION: Yeah. Well --
QUESTION: Let me – hold on, just let me say: Please be careful about
saying “your defense minister” and things like that. I mean, she’s a journalist
just like the rest of are, so it’s – she’s asking pointed questions, but
they’re not --
MR KIRBY: From a state-owned – from a state-owned --
QUESTION: But they’re not --
MR KIRBY: From a state-owned outlet, Matt.
QUESTION: But they’re not --
MR KIRBY: From a state-owned outlet that’s not independent.
QUESTION: The questions that she’s asking are not out of line.
QUESTION: The outlet is (inaudible) --
MR KIRBY: I didn’t say the questions were out of line.
QUESTION: Okay. I mean --
MR KIRBY: I didn’t say the questions were out of line.
QUESTION: All right. Okay.
MR KIRBY: Okay? But I’m not --
QUESTION: But I mean – oh no, I understand. But asking --
MR KIRBY: I’m sorry, but I’m not going to put Russia Today on the same level with the rest of you
who are representing independent media outlets.
QUESTION: Well --
QUESTION: Do you have an issue with my question?
QUESTION: Well, hold on, but just --
QUESTION: (Off-mike.)
QUESTION: Look, there – well, we’ll talk about – we can talk about this
later offline --
QUESTION: Maybe I could ask my Iraq question.
QUESTION: -- but just – the question is not an inappropriate question to
ask.
MR KIRBY: Didn’t say that it was.
QUESTION: All right.
MR KIRBY: But I also think it should be asked of their own defense
ministry --
QUESTION: Okay.
MR KIRBY: -- which they don’t do, which Russia
Today doesn’t do.
Said, did you
have one?